whereas by the 1860s places like Omeo had a great impact on those uh groups um but that intermarriage with Jaithmathang was an important process and you know it wasn’t just about bogong moth it was about these other social connections of people and yes one of the resources there was Bogong moth and it’s a bit like coastal archaeology where people are talking about middens as the dominant site well you know that’s one food source but they’re not recognizing the other uh plants and animals that live along that uh coastal strip and it’s similar in the mountains where we have this sort of one dimension focus on bogong moth and not on other aspects of this rich environment of food um you know and i was saying to Roderick that you know at certain times like lake Omeo is similar to India lakes at the moment well you know it has the same effect if there’s water in in lake the birds arrive from all over the place swans ducks pelicans you know but it might be a 10 year cycle or a 15-year cycle that happens but in between people living off and moving across really broad landscapes from lake Omeo to the east into the cobras and out towards the snowy river and then in a western ark going up to the bogong high plains and you know for different seasons of the year where they’re coming out of winter where food resources and this living in that lower uh altitude um moving up high they’re moving up with the animals and with the plants that are starting to develop and by they get time they get to the uh the true sort of treeless areas uh you know they’ve got this ability or that the plants there flower uh early on the northern aspects as opposed to the southern aspects so there’s this movement pattern even when they’re up high of going to the north early in in the season and then going to the south to collect foods so the variety of and movement is really uh diverse and bogan moth is one of those uh food sources they know that they’re there but there are a lot of other uh plants and obviously animals too i’ve seen ducks up there I’ve seen swans up on up in the high country uh you know and then i just tend to think well i’ve seen emu’s I’ve seen kangaroos you know they’re all there it’s just that uh what we’ve seen is since settlement around the Omeo district in the 184 uh 30s this i suppose depopulation of kangaroos and emus through the introduction of of sheep and cows and and farmers don’t want sheep and cows uh sorry farmers don’t want uh kangaroos and Emus they want sheep and cows you know and and that’s competitive nature of it uh so their numbers would have uh decreased hugely uh and like i said you know even at Hotham uh or just below Hotham and it Buckety plain on the southern Bogongs where you’ve got emus and kangaroos bouncing around yeah they’re not maybe going to the higher planes but they’re certainly in the woodlands and the open plains that are the lower